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		<title>By: jon_a_thon</title>
		<link>https://jonathanfield.com/blog/2007/11/whats-wrong/#comment-549</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Re: Nine-Twenty&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ah!  The old dog can still teach the young dog a few tricks!  Though I suppose calling myself a young dog at this point may be a bit much.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s an excellent point you make.  I see that I may have misinterpreted a seemingly simple statistic.  Now I&#039;m not sure exactly what the spike in the graph means.  I mean, even I may have felt a small rise in my approval rating for Bush when he didn&#039;t start a misguided war immediately after the attack.  Of course that ended up a short lived bit of hope.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve come across this kind of thing so many times, where a statistic seems to imply something until you dig.  And yet I can still fall for it!  I suppose people like myself who are easily misled by simplified statistics are the _real_ problem with mankind!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Nine-Twenty</p>
<p>Ah!  The old dog can still teach the young dog a few tricks!  Though I suppose calling myself a young dog at this point may be a bit much.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an excellent point you make.  I see that I may have misinterpreted a seemingly simple statistic.  Now I&#8217;m not sure exactly what the spike in the graph means.  I mean, even I may have felt a small rise in my approval rating for Bush when he didn&#8217;t start a misguided war immediately after the attack.  Of course that ended up a short lived bit of hope.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve come across this kind of thing so many times, where a statistic seems to imply something until you dig.  And yet I can still fall for it!  I suppose people like myself who are easily misled by simplified statistics are the _real_ problem with mankind!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>https://jonathanfield.com/blog/2007/11/whats-wrong/#comment-547</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Re: Nine-Twenty&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree with you, but I had another thought.   If a person gives, say, President Bush a 40% approval rating, and then after 9/11 gives him an 80% approval rating, that is rather foolish.  But if 40% of the public gives Bush more than a 50% rating, and then after 9/11 80% give him more than a 50% rating, it&#039;s not the same.  Each individual may have felt only 5% or 10% better, and it&#039;s not his or her fault that a lot of other people reacted the same way rather than only a few.&lt;br /&gt;
Do svidanya for now.  Pyerezvon&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Nine-Twenty</p>
<p>I agree with you, but I had another thought.   If a person gives, say, President Bush a 40% approval rating, and then after 9/11 gives him an 80% approval rating, that is rather foolish.  But if 40% of the public gives Bush more than a 50% rating, and then after 9/11 80% give him more than a 50% rating, it&#8217;s not the same.  Each individual may have felt only 5% or 10% better, and it&#8217;s not his or her fault that a lot of other people reacted the same way rather than only a few.<br />
Do svidanya for now.  Pyerezvon</p>
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		<title>By: jon_a_thon</title>
		<link>https://jonathanfield.com/blog/2007/11/whats-wrong/#comment-546</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Re: Nine-Twenty&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well you know, maybe I misjudged the graph a bit.  If there was at least a few days of assessing the situation before the rise in approval, I can understand a little better.  But I still think the rise is far too dramatic far too quickly.  That kind of unmeasured response bugs me.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Nine-Twenty</p>
<p>Well you know, maybe I misjudged the graph a bit.  If there was at least a few days of assessing the situation before the rise in approval, I can understand a little better.  But I still think the rise is far too dramatic far too quickly.  That kind of unmeasured response bugs me.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>https://jonathanfield.com/blog/2007/11/whats-wrong/#comment-545</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Nine-Twenty&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As I recall, Bush did not really become more popular until four or five days after 9/11.  At first he seemed like a wooden lost soul, but then he got into the rhythm and seemed caring.  This is what Giuliani seemed like too, a concerned and moved person, and that&#039;s what has brought him to a possible presidency seven years later.  Maybe they really did feel that way, although it&#039;s not a good political guide for the rest of us.&lt;br /&gt;
People&#039;s opinions aren&#039;t as primary as we like to think.  People felt scared after 9/11, and Bush reassured them and they loved him for that.  That&#039;s a positive opinion.  I noticed at the time that he seemed more likeable.  But judging things by people&#039;s &quot;opinions&quot; is pretty foolish; I&#039;m not sure what to use instead, aside from truth.&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve noticed that graphs are often misaligned, so I don&#039;t know what the graph means exactly except that people tended to like Bush more after 9/11, which is a chilling thought, especially if 9/11 was fabricated.                            Pyerezvon    {:-B&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nine-Twenty</p>
<p>As I recall, Bush did not really become more popular until four or five days after 9/11.  At first he seemed like a wooden lost soul, but then he got into the rhythm and seemed caring.  This is what Giuliani seemed like too, a concerned and moved person, and that&#8217;s what has brought him to a possible presidency seven years later.  Maybe they really did feel that way, although it&#8217;s not a good political guide for the rest of us.<br />
People&#8217;s opinions aren&#8217;t as primary as we like to think.  People felt scared after 9/11, and Bush reassured them and they loved him for that.  That&#8217;s a positive opinion.  I noticed at the time that he seemed more likeable.  But judging things by people&#8217;s &#8220;opinions&#8221; is pretty foolish; I&#8217;m not sure what to use instead, aside from truth.<br />
I&#8217;ve noticed that graphs are often misaligned, so I don&#8217;t know what the graph means exactly except that people tended to like Bush more after 9/11, which is a chilling thought, especially if 9/11 was fabricated.                            Pyerezvon    {:-B</p>
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		<title>By: langure</title>
		<link>https://jonathanfield.com/blog/2007/11/whats-wrong/#comment-544</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;hey, all I&#039;m saying is 9/11 comes before 9/20.  I swear that&#039;s all I&#039;m saying.  I love America, swimsuit models, &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; the Gregorian Calendar.  Please love me.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, all I&#8217;m saying is 9/11 comes before 9/20.  I swear that&#8217;s all I&#8217;m saying.  I love America, swimsuit models, <i>and</i> the Gregorian Calendar.  Please love me.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>https://jonathanfield.com/blog/2007/11/whats-wrong/#comment-543</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Hey, are you implying that a 5% margin of error in sampling is too much for sound policy decisions?  Love it or get out!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, are you implying that a 5% margin of error in sampling is too much for sound policy decisions?  Love it or get out!</p>
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		<title>By: langure</title>
		<link>https://jonathanfield.com/blog/2007/11/whats-wrong/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[langure]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;er.. I mean &quot;draw a line from the nearest marker on the X axis...&quot;&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>er.. I mean &#8220;draw a line from the nearest marker on the X axis&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: langure</title>
		<link>https://jonathanfield.com/blog/2007/11/whats-wrong/#comment-541</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[langure]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Curiously enough if you draw a line straight up from the nearest marker on the Y axis, which is 9/20/01 it intersects the graph below the third horizontal line marking 85%.  Something about the graph is way way off.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curiously enough if you draw a line straight up from the nearest marker on the Y axis, which is 9/20/01 it intersects the graph below the third horizontal line marking 85%.  Something about the graph is way way off.</p>
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		<title>By: jon_a_thon</title>
		<link>https://jonathanfield.com/blog/2007/11/whats-wrong/#comment-540</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Holy shit, you&#039;re right!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess it says that we have collective telepathy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And also that we&#039;re really stupid.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy shit, you&#8217;re right!</p>
<p>I guess it says that we have collective telepathy.</p>
<p>And also that we&#8217;re really stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: banacek</title>
		<link>https://jonathanfield.com/blog/2007/11/whats-wrong/#comment-539</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[banacek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t know, dude.  According to the red arrow pointing out 9/11, the huge spike in Bush&#039;s popularity seems to have occurred about a week or so &lt;b&gt;before&lt;/b&gt; the attack.  I think that&#039;s the real head scratcher here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What does &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; say about mankind as a creature?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-banacek&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, dude.  According to the red arrow pointing out 9/11, the huge spike in Bush&#8217;s popularity seems to have occurred about a week or so <b>before</b> the attack.  I think that&#8217;s the real head scratcher here.</p>
<p>What does <i>that</i> say about mankind as a creature?</p>
<p>-banacek</p>
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